Today we talk about our all-time favorite cars from movies. We are dating ourselves, but there are a few surprises. We also tackle more tech questions. Discuss how difficult or easy it is to install most of our products.
Thank you for listening, show notes below.
Episode 4 Show Notes
Chris: All right, so let's start this off with a quick question.
Shane: No, start all the way over.
Steve: Just start all the way over, take it from the top, dude.
Shane: Oh, really?
Chris: Yeah. So we're starting again. Take number 698.
Shane: Yeah. Go.
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Chris: All right, so let's just kick it off with a question for discussion. Movie cars. There's a ton of movies out there, so take a brief second. If you could have, own, drive, you all get to pick one, what movie car would that be? [00:01:30] Shane?
Shane: I'm going to pick an obscure one. I'm going to pick that Mercedes from Ronin.
Chris: And why?
Shane: It's a Mercedes. I can't remember the number, but I know it has a 6.9 liter V8.
Steve: Didn't he have the Audi?
Shane: Yeah, they had an Audi in there, an Audi S8, in the beginning, and that's the one that ... Can't remember his name, John something, drove. But there's a scene where they're in the little plaza, and [00:02:00] Jean Reno and Robert de Niro take off in that Mercedes, and you can just see it billow smoke as soon as they take off.
Shane: That was a big motor. It was the biggest Mercedes motor, I think, at that time.
Steve: Highly underrated car chasing. That's one of the best. I absolutely love that.
Chris: I was going to say, they destroyed that car, right?
Shane: They did, they were shooting RPGs at them and everything.
Chris: Nice. Steve, what do you think?
Steve: Movie not TV show, right?
Chris: You can do whatever. I mean we know what's coming. I think, well [00:02:30] but go for it.
Steve: Okay, if we're going to do TV show, I mean the 18 van is really cool, but there's nothing cooler than being Magnum PI in that Ferrari. Robin's Ferrari. It's not his, he's driving, it doesn't have the pay for it. How great is that?
Steve: But if we're going to do movie, I'm going to go, it seems to me, you could go Batman and all that other crap or whatever, and not that that's crap, but that's not like a real real car. [00:03:00] I would kind of like that truck in Tango and Cash. Just because-
Shane: I forgot all about that.
Steve: You know, my thing is if I ever had to pick a getaway vehicle or if I was going to do some nefarious activity and I had to escape my getaway vehicle would be a Ford Raptor because you can haul bud, go on and off road, that kind of thing. But that truck in Tango and Cash, because they cut it's kind of like a Raptor before it was a Raptor, [00:03:30] I might take that. That thing was pretty awesome.
Chris: That was sick. Yeah, that was a great one. For me, I don't know, it's weird like the very first car kind of movie that I saw and, don't ask me why, but was Road Warrior. I mean you really can't flip on the blower, but it was pretty cool and the thing was just so industrial. Booby traps on it and it's just armored up and [00:04:00] got the flick on blower and the thing would, he'd be going 80 and he kicked that thing on it would squeal tires. I mean it eventually gets destroyed at the end of the movie when he blows the dude up. But I think that would have to be my pick.
Steve: When that car blew up, was that the flying eyeball scene out of the guy's head? Remember that? That was great.
Shane: I think it was.
Chris: I love that scene. Wasn't it when he got hit? That guy ran [00:04:30] the motors... Oh no guys, I'm thinking Mad Max. You're right, that is the eyeball scene.
Steve: Yeah, I think I could be wrong, but I think that might be it.
Chris: It's just great. That movie had two version, an English version and an Australian version. I don't know. The way they spoke was obviously different, but Mel Gibson's awesome and that car touched my heart.
Steve: It's kind of like watching swamp people. They still have subtitles for people in English, right?
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Chris: I think the one thing about our product that kind of scares some folks is that they're like, Oh man, I just, I don't want to do it cause I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of doing something that's too hard. I don't think I can do it. And I think you two would be great people to answer these questions. Like when you're looking at installing the majority of our products, [00:05:30] to me they seem easy but maybe you guys can take us through just your thought on that because I think people are like, Oh man, if I buys this, you know I've got to spend hours and hours and hours doing it. But the reality is it doesn't take us long.
Shane: I don't think we have anything that takes hours and hours to install.
Steve: No. Unless you're going to do-
Shane: Unless you're doing a project.
Steve: A header right. And you have to turbo manifold something like, and you've got to take it off cause that really honestly, [00:06:00] the best way to do that is to get that off the car. But our actual product installation time is minimal. I mean it's little to nothing. There might be some labor involved getting the component or part of the car off, but it's absolutely minimal. Our stuff is actually pretty easy.
Chris: Yeah. I think at the end of the day, I mean when you design this product, I think you, I mean [00:06:30] for the pipe armor kit, that just kind of came about because we wanted to make it easier for the consumer to use. And I mean we did a JK here and literally cause you don't have to cut the product. You're measuring, you're putting it up. I think I timed it, it was less than seven minutes. So we'll just let everybody out there know that it is really a DIY product that can really affect the way your car performs or even your comfort [00:07:00] within the car. Just cover up that one heat section and you could be on the trail an hour, two hours longer than you would cause you're not burning up or racing or whatever it may be.
Steve: Yeah, I mean there's things you could even do, like if you're at a race track or something like that, there's even stuff you can do to quickly fix something there, like pop a fuel line off or use one of the Velcro sleeves to, when you're having a vapor lock issue [00:07:30] or things like that. Some things do take a little more time, but again, most of it is really, it's just moving the stuff out of the way to get the product on. That's really where the difficulty is. And if you can take a header on and off a car, you know what you can do anything pretty much what we're doing. Even newer intake manifolds, those gaskets, the old rings on them, I shouldn't really call them a gasket. They were usable so you don't have to replace those.
Steve: It's not like the old-
Shane: Well it's like 10 [00:08:00] years old.
Steve: Yeah. Like an old three 50 Chevy or something like that or your small block Ford.
Shane: What do you use?
Steve: Well you got to replace the gasket and that kind of thing cause you don't want it to leak and you're going to put intake manifold shield on. But even the intake manifold shield, especially on newer cars, man it's super easy. I think the hardest or the longest part of when we did that JK and the pipe armor kit was the filming. Honestly literally, that was the thing. It was a three foot, wasn't that the two and a half, but I remember probably a [00:08:30] three foot, two and a half pipe armor kit and it was clamp it on, wire it on and see you later out the door.
Chris: Yeah, you're right. So probably less than four or five minutes. Cause we had to wait for the cameras. That's a good point. [inaudible 00:08:50]
Chris: Yeah. I mean again, the effects that a couple minutes can do is kind of a, is a nice thing about our products [00:09:00] and again-
Steve: Yeah we can really change a ride or you can really. It's neat that something so simple can greatly affect a person's quality, comfort, even horsepower. Like those intake manifold shields. It's a simple product. It's not complicated and it's amazing how much that little things can do to affect performance or your ride comfort, that type of thing.
Shane: Yeah you can't enjoy it if you're uncomfortable.
Chris: [00:09:30] Okay. Next question's about air intake, cold air intake. This person writes, I'm looking for a product to wrap my air intake. I'm getting confused on what the best product that will give me the best temperature reduction. And then he goes on to say, after I get done with that, I'm going to do something to my air box but they weren't sure what the best product was for that. So one, can you talk about the cold air intake and what you would use best product? Maybe two options [00:10:00] and then the other one would be if you're going to do the box.
Shane: Air box is an easy one, you'd want to use some sticky shield.
Steve: That's the best one. A lot of people want gold and our gold, it's reflective, don't get me wrong, but real gold is very, very reflective, but nobody really has the money to afford to get their stuff in real gold. It's a little complicated because [00:10:30] there was another company out there saying, Oh yeah, just wrap it with-
Steve: You know, they copied lava rap, were the first ones to have a volcanic rock, so they were saying, Oh, just wrap your intake with that, and that's a huge no no. That's Cardinal sin number one. That's an insulator designed to retain heat. It doesn't shield heat.
Shane: It's great if you want to increase the temp of your intake.
Steve: Yeah, absolutely. Totally agree with that. Another problem too, you fight is [00:11:00] a lot of aftermarket, quote unquote cold air intakes. They just flow more hot air. They flow a lot more air than a stock intake, but it's hotter air. So, that doesn't really do you any good either.
Chris: So you get into a custom box at that point or?
Steve: Or you just try to go back to your factory set up if you haven't hacked everything up. Basically a good cold air intake kit will pick up at the factory location cause the factory [00:11:30] people, they have to meet emission standards, they got to meet fuel millage standards. So they-
Shane: Efficiency as much as possible.
Steve: Yeah, that's right. And they have to do it as cheaply as they can. So they've engineered this vehicle to accept cold air at this spot. So unless you're cold air kit has a better pickup point for the fresh cold air coming in, don't buy it. Buy somebody else's. Find one that does and if nobody does it, then just shield your stock intake cause you could actually get a better performance [00:12:00] gain from a stock intake thats properly shielded than spending money on an aftermarket one that just flows more hot air.
Chris: So the consensus is the air box, sticky shield but the-
Steve: Pipe itself, the Thermo flex sleeve is awesome. That's number one, the best one to use. And then you could use one of the tapes, either the thermal Fleck tape or the cold gold tape. But the thermal flex sleeve is great cause it Velcros on. You can cut holes [00:12:30] for different sensors and things that you need. Relatively easy to use. You can make it look real professional. That's where our cold air intake kits and universal thing goes.
Steve: Three feet long, three to four inch diameter, inside diameter I should say. And then it comes with the tape to kind of seal it up and make it look pretty on the edge. That's another big thing too is on these. Anything you're trying to shield like that, just like your fuel line or anything else, just make sure those ends of the [00:13:00] sleeve are snug so no hot air is going in behind them.
Chris: And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Velcro is wider on our air intake kit, so it will fit multiple sizes.
Steve: Yeah, Three to four. So it's like there's a couple of passes of two inch Velcro on one side and the other side just got the single layer and you just kind of put it anywhere.
Chris: Yeah, I mean again, great example of what you can do in an afternoon or a morning to keep those air-
Steve: [00:13:30] Yeah make a big impact. So Arthur Irwin, he's a producer for Brenton media, and I know him because he's always trying to get us to go on the show and do things. So, that's how I know him. He actually made his own quote unquote cold air intake, a PVC pipe and that kind of thing. And his actually wasn't that bad of a job. It sounds a lot worse than it does. It sounds like maybe something [00:14:00] I would do. Maybe, but he sent me pictures and emailed me data and everything.
Steve: So what he then did, he's like, Hey, I'm having a problem. It's working better, but it's not working like it should. So we insulated it. I sent him some stuff and I said, look, I just want you to tell me what your fuel mileage is. And he picked up one mile per gallon, I think it was a 99 VA Grand Cherokee and it was a pretty simple thing to make an intake for so I think that's why he did it himself. Otherwise some of these things are just [00:14:30] too many convoluted bends and shapes and those types of things.
Chris: Right. So Velcro closure. There is a question here. I purchased a Thermo flex sleeve with Velcro. It works great. Just had a question on where the Velcro should be in association with the heat source.
Steve: Yeah, opposite side. So you don't want it facing... It is high temp. It will not. It's not a combustible piece of material and it's not [00:15:00] Velcro. It's hook and loop. Velcro's a trade name so we can't use it. Hook and loop. So you just face that opposite direction of the heat source. And if you've got multiple heat sources, so say in an engine bay and you've got like a header and then engine heat or whatever, just try to get it the best direction you can from the least amount of heat. That's the best way to put it. Same thing on that. Just make sure the ends are tight. Sleeve can be loose on the [00:15:30] wire, the line, the hose, that's fine. It doesn't matter if it's super tight on there or not. Just make sure those ends are nice and snug, so no heat sneaking in on it.
Chris: All right, good. Next question. It's kind of, I'm going to combine two, but this person writes, I'm finally done with my car, but I have fuel lines that run next to the exhaust. Basically what happens, he spent years building this car, went out and ran it and he had vapor lock. So he writes on [00:16:00] here, how do I finally conquer vapor lock?
Steve: Yeah, that's so such a loaded question because it's different for every car. You know, small block Ford, small block Chevy. A lot of us would put a metal line, run it from the fuel pump that's down on the side of the block, run it up into the carb and that would conduct heat. That's an easy one. You just hot rod sleep. That's my favorite thing for vapor lock. And the nice thing about that is as with a metal [00:16:30] line, those fittings and tubing, if you're running like a three eights tube or whatever, the sleeve will stretch around the fitting, go down and you heat shrink, sealing the ends down with the heat shrink or something like that.
Chris: So you want to trap heat.
Steve: Exactly. That particular gentleman there, there's so many variables that you have to-
Shane: He may not want to remove all those fuel lines. [00:17:00] So he'd want to use like a thermo flex.
Steve: Yeah. Thermo flex sleeve-
Shane: Or a lava tube.
Chris: I love the lava tube.
Steve: Yeah. I think that, okay. So here's the thing. [inaudible 00:17:09] wow, that's hard to say. Apparently I need more coffee or something. Thermo flex sleeve is great if you have a one inch air gap. Airflow, air gap. That stuff is awesome. I mean it literally will reflect over 90% of radiant heat, but air gap, airflow, that's almost [00:17:30] as important as the material. This guy, I don't remember the details of it, but if his header is really, really close to those fuel lines, your best, easiest shot at a fix would be to put the lava tube on there because while it may not reflect as much heat, a little thicker, a little more substantial and it will reduce the amount of heat transferred into the fuel line.
Steve: The option would be to use either our header armor kit or-
Shane: Make [00:18:00] a little shield.
Steve: Yeah, use that on the head. You don't have to do the whole header, but at least a portion of it. Just keep in mind that whenever you do just a portion of the exhaust, you want to go anywhere between three and six inches before and after the point because the points right before and after any type of insulation on a pipe will be a little bit hotter. But it is loaded. There's so many different solutions. Hot rod sleeve fixes about 85% of it and that's a great, I love that stuff. [00:18:30] It's a great product.
Chris: DB skin. I know we've been up on our Instagram. We've been putting a lot of insulating a sound deadening stuff up there. Where did the DB skin, I mean where does that idea come from and then if you were going to, let's say you had to do a car from start to finish, insulating and then trying to do something to curb the heat as well. Could you just explain that process?
Steve: So like an interior [00:19:00] install? It depends on what you're doing. So what level of quiet you want. DB skin is great if the car is a shell. If it's empty, hasn't been paint or if you're real meticulous and you want to mask everything off. It's great because if you spray it will fill like every nook and cranny. The absolute, in my opinion, [00:19:30] well this is what I'm going to do to the Mustang when we get it, if we ever get it done. DB skin will be on the roof panel. Roof panels are weird. You don't need to go sticking a bunch of real heavy insulation up there. We got some really awesome cortex racing suspension for the Mustang. I don't want to be putting a bunch of big heavy asphalt sheets up there and just kind of changing my center of gravity.
Steve: So up there you're just trying to get the ringing [00:20:00] out. The DB skin will more than handle that. In fact it'll do awesome. It'll actually give it a little structural integrity. Instead of having something pulling down on the roof, it will dry and actually give it a little more support, a little more structural integrity. The DB skin is great. The same thing on the floor pan cause it's a kind of a vibration compound. Basically damping sheet, I'm sorry, damping compound not a damping sheet. So on the bottom [00:20:30] I would use DB skin in all those hard to reach places. You brush it on, you have to spray it on, brush on roll on, that type of thing too. But I would use DB armor. That stuff kicks butt. So the big difference in all these different sound insulation sheets, you know there's one out there and they're everywhere.
Steve: You see them on all these TV shows. I think I mentioned this before, you see a lot of big name car builders doing it wrong. They're putting these big heavy sheets up under the roof [00:21:00] panel. Their product is great, but the technology has moved down the road a little bit. I'm not going to knock them because they spend a lot of money in advertising and they're great for the industry. They just are. I mean even our competitors are good cause they spend money on advertising and they help promote, at least the automotive industry. I know we're in other market sectors too, like heavy duty and stuff like that. But we started off as primarily an automotive company. So that what we're going [00:21:30] to focus on. The problem is they're big, they're heavy. One of the other competitors we have, not not the one you see everywhere, but another one pretty popular, they are advertising like how thick their butyl is, that asphalt looking part. That couldn't be more wrong than anything.
Steve: So you have, think about it, you got two plates, so take your two hands, make them [00:22:00] flat, lay them on top of each other. The bottom one is your floorboard. That's just vibrating like this. So the top plate, the top panel, which should be like the foil side. It's not for heat, by the way, people out there, I don't care what anybody else tells you. Even our own stuff, it doesn't do squat for heat. So the top panel is there to kind of counter balance the bottom one and reduce the vibration. That's how you do that. By increasing that butyl gap there, you're just allowing that top, [00:22:30] the counterbalance sheet to vibrate more so that couldn't be more wrong.
Steve: And then our DB armor, we use a very thin butyl. Difference is that our foil is a little bit thicker. It's not so thick that when you cut it and manipulate it you're going to slice your hand open. Most of the other guys are using four mill. We're using six mill so it's a little bit more substantial. The part of the vibration thing is you want to get your [00:23:00] counter panel, the top panel to be thicker because you're trying to match the, not the complete thickness of your body panel, cause he wants to stack another body panel on there and it wouldn't work that well anyway. So you want to get closer to that thickness so that's really the misconception or bad thing. So if I was going to do a car start to finish? Sorry, went off on a rant there.
Steve: DB skin roof panel. Once that dries [00:23:30] I'd glue the stealth shield in there cause that'll stop the heat from coming in. Again, all light weight stuff. That's the killer thing about, it's all lightweight.
Chris: And the nice thing is we made a kit for that. Headliner kit check it out.
Steve: Yeah. DB headliner kit, it's awesome. Then I would DB armor on the floor. On the outer door skins I would put the DB skin cause it's just a great application for it. Same thing, get some of that ringing out of there. On the inner door panel, like behind [00:24:00] the door panel, a lot of factories have like a plastic piece around there or use that... Put the DB defender in there. It's a heat moldable thing. You can get into nooks and crannies. And then if you really were like, if I was doing like a Lincoln or a Cadillac restoration where I'm not really going for weight and speed. So on top of my DB armor on the bottom there, I put that DB sniper and that handles kind of a different frequency. That handles more road noise and that type of thing. [00:24:30] You can get a car real, real quiet.
Chris: You're kind of like a savant on this stuff. It's kind of cool. We don't really, I mean we always talk about how to curb heat, but I mean we have ways to curb sound and put it all together as one piece. I just wanted everybody to know that. [crosstalk 00:24:49]
Steve: The problem is there's a lot of misinformation out there. There's a lot of, I don't want to, I mean I don't want to just. A lot of misleading marketing. [00:25:00] We really do try to be honest man. It may not always help us if we say something doesn't perform like it should. I mean I'd say we are honest, we're spot on with everything we do. If we ever see something we'll make a correction. But I don't think we've ever had that happen yet where we've been wrong. So it's difficult cause we don't have a ton of money out there in marketing, so we're fighting a lot. But you know what, with the internet [00:25:30] now and the way people deal with stuff on social media and stuff like that, you can get the truth out there now pretty quick. So that's kind of what the podcast is about too. One of the things we're trying to do here is debunk and-
Shane: Give you some good info.
Steve: Yeah, exactly. Exactly right.
Chris: Yeah. And you can always check out our website. Heatshieldproducts.com. It's like a vault of knowledge and then some of the stuff, I can't believe we've put on there because it's information is so good. But you should check that out because [00:26:00] if you're ever doing the project, everything you could imagine is on there. So check that out.
Steve: Can we do new products? Can we talk about new products?
Chris: Yeah, I wanted to ask you about something.
Steve: Okay, go ahead.
Chris: Cause I saw you talking with the boys in back and are you doing something with our heat shield, is it the mat or the...
Chris: We had the piece that went underneath [00:26:30] like a race carpet?
Steve: Oh yeah. So the floor shields. We have the HP floor shield and the light floor shield. The light floor shield actually is, those two kind of got rolled into one. And in all honesty, I think that is something we started in 19 I want to say like 88 or 89 started making those.
Chris: So due for an update?
Steve: Due for an update. Got a major update.
Chris: What I saw was, I mean it was insane.
Shane: They did awesome.
Steve: Yeah they do. They came out really [00:27:00] cool. An idea we've actually had for a year or so just hadn't gotten to it. So it looks like a carbon fiber on the top. Bottom side is the stealth shield. So the thing ends up being a hair over an eighth of an inch thick. The old ones were about half inch insulation, but we compress it down so it's more like quarter inch or so.
Chris: Can you remind the listeners on what temperature [00:27:30] that'll take?
Steve: So on this, because of the vinyl, we're limiting it. The actual stealth shield fabric itself, just the felt itself will take 1800 degrees. And it's a killer product because you can hit it with a torch on one hand and [inaudible 00:27:51] hit the stealth shield with a torch on one side, put your hand on the other and you'll feel the heat, don't get me wrong. But your skin [00:28:00] isn't boiling off and it's only an eighth of an inch thick. So it's an incredible product. So basically what we've done, we've got two versions of it since we've got a patent on some magnet Mount technology. So the two versions of the new floor shield are, one has magnets in the corners and on the bigger mats on the sides so you can just kind of drop it in your car and it'll sit.
Steve: The other one is like the original one where it's got grommets. So if you want to attach it with that method you can. But it's [00:28:30] super awesome. I mean it's again, primarily racing, a guy with a rat rod, and I don't know, I kind of hate that term too. I can't remember who we were talking with at PRI and he said, I hate that term.
Chris: Oh yeah who was that?
Steve: And he was on the old search and restore on power block. And his name's escaping me right now. Anyway. Yeah, it's right. It's like more like a traditional hot rod. A hot rod is anything that you're modifying. [00:29:00] Hell, a muscle car is a hot rod, a race car is a hot rod because you're hot roding, you're making it different. But more like traditional hot rod where maybe you don't have the big budget for anything but you need to do something.
Steve: It's like the easiest way to keep your floorboard cool. We're going to send some off to Michelle [at body 00:29:19] I know she was complaining about her heel in her car.
Chris: Yeah, she was.
Steve: So some heat from the trans tunnel. I don't know if they've lined the underside of that car with sticky shield or anything like that yet.
Chris: We got [00:29:30] some of that then when we were out for SEMA, we got that video is up on YouTube as well. We did not mess around with her panel around the box.
Steve: Yeah, the foot box. And on that trans am car its configured a little different. So anyway, so we're going to send her one and let her be the test mule. But she should be stoked on it, man.
Chris: Hypothetically speaking, I mean off-roading, if somebody-
Steve: Anything-
Chris: [Rock crawler 00:00:30:05] then take [00:30:00] the carpet out.
Steve: Heavy duty truck, that's one of the most neglected applications for insulation, farmers. These guys are out in these things, literally all day. A lot of those things are driven by GPS and that kind of stuff now. So they're not, but they're there just in case something goes wrong. So they're sitting there. And you could actually, the magnetic one, guess what you can do with it. You can take it, turn around upside down or you could stick it up in a roof panel [00:30:30] if you have a metal roof panel, and the thing is if you don't have metal, you've got aluminum or something. Silicone some metal washers up there, put the magnets up in place and they'll go up there.
Steve: But it'll work on the floor, it'll work on the roof panel with the magnetic one, obviously. But dude, it's just awesome, man. It cuts down the heats so much.
Chris: Sizes?
Steve: Real similar to the other ones. Odd shapes, yeah, we're going to do those too, but yeah, we're starting with a basics. Basically it's a major [00:31:00] upgrade to a product that's almost as old as the company.
Chris: That's killer. That's great.
Steve: Plus, speaking of that, what is this, is this 30, 85 right? Wow, You're 35. So 2020 is year 35.
Chris: They started the company before you were born Steve.
Steve: No, God, no. Oh, I wish.
Chris: A bunch of old dude sitting right here. Yeah, that's what we got for today's [00:31:30] podcast. Again, hit us up please. We want to hear from you.
Steve: And we're going to try to get some guests in here soon too.
Chris: Yeah. Whether you liked the podcast, leave us a comment. Definitely subscribe to our YouTube channel. There is a like I said, a vault of information on there. You can see Shane trying to manipulate a bunch of stuff, which is actually pretty cool, but yeah, and stop that heat and if you have questions [email protected] or [00:32:00] you can go online to our tech and check that out.
Steve: Sorry. You know we, we are next to a manufacturing. There's two walls behind us. You're some... Yeah the air compressors going.
Chris: We can't stop for that.
Steve: We can't stop production for the podcast. But we do thank you for listening and absolutely, leave us feedback. That's how our products get better is by listening to you. So this is a product we're putting out there so give us feedback and help us get it better.
Chris: That's it.
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